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Ian McDonald brings you "Stories, science, and analysis from vegan perspectives."

VegHist Ep 10: Revolution. English civil war, diet gurus, and the poetry of Sensibility. With Tristram Stuart and Anita Guerrini; at the Ahmedabad Panjrapole
3 Jan 2017 at 9:00am

When printing lets ordinary people access a world of ideas, including Indian vegetarianism, some European radicals and diet gurus begin to oppose meat-eating.

Episode 10: Revolution

In England, the 1600s are a century of revolution. The artisans and yeomanry are picking up books – and the New Model Army is picking up pikes and muskets to turn the world upside down.

Ian meets Dr Ariel Hessayon, a lecturer in the radicals of the English Civil War at a Thameside pub that was there during the 1600s, to discover tabloid scares and firebrand sermons about people who ate only bread, and water and fruit.

In Ahmedabad, India, he visits the kind of animal hospital that astounded European travellers. And he hears from author Tristram Stuart about the impact stories of India had on Europeans, and how they shook Christendom’s moral certainty.

Dr Anita Guerrini researches the first vegetarian diet gurus, whose books about food and medicine interpreted the intellectuals of the Republic of Letters for everyone else. And she tells Ian about the secret religion of Sir Isaac Newton.

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Contributors: Sherwin Everett and Giraben Shah (Jivdaya Charitable Trust, within Panjrapole Ahmedabad) Ariel Hessayon, Goldsmiths, University of London (@ArielHessayon1 on Twitter) Anita Guerrini, Oregon State University (@NickyTheProf on Twitter) Tristram Stuart (tristramstuart.co.uk) (on Wikipedia) (@TristramStuart on Twitter) Readings Traveller Jan Huyghen van Linschoten, “Voyage .. to the East Indies”, 1595, translation by Burnell 1598  Thomas Bushell on his diet, quoted in Stuart p 8 Richard Baxter, “The Poor Husbandman’s Advocate to Rich Racking Landlords”, 1691 (published as “The Last Treatise of Rev Richard Baxter” in  1926 [PDF]) Thomas Edwards, “Gangraeana”, 1646 John Reeve, “A Transcendental Spiritual Treatise”, 1711 (1st ed 1652) Lodowick Muggleton, “The Acts of the Witnesses of the Spirit”, 1699 Anon & Roger Crab, “The English Hermit”, 1655 John Evelyn, “Acetaria”, 1699 Thomas Tryon “A dialogue between an East-Indian brackmanny or heathen-philosopher, and a French gentleman concerning the present affairs of Europe”, 1683 “Transcript of several letters from Averroes – also several letters from Pythagoras to the King of India”, 1695 Anonymous, “Letters Writ by a Turkish Spy”, Vol 4 & 7, 1691-4 (following Giovanni Paolo Marana tr William Bradshaw, “Letters Writ By a Turkish Spy”, Vol 1 1687) Isaac Newton, “Irenicum”, some point within 1711-1727 Bernard de Mandeville, “Fable of the Bees”, 1723 Alexander Pope, “The Essay on Man”, 1733/4 George Cheyne “The Case of the Author” in “The English Malady”, 1733 “An Essay on Regimen”, 1740 John Wesley letter to Bishop of London, 1747 Sermon 60, as published in 1872 Production Notes

This is really where the story breaks open in the west and a “Pythagorean” diet re-enters the popular consciousness for the first time since antiquity. Frustratingly, I had to leave out a lot, such as how Thomas Tryon follows the mystic Jakob Boehme (quite a lot of early vegetarians are mystics) .

In particular, George Cheyne has a very specific theory of how the nervous system works, based on the physical laws of Newton. But I can’t go into detail on all the theories that have fallen and risen as “natural history” stumbles towards a useful understanding of the body.

The monument to Roger Crab is still in St. Dunstan’s, Stepney, London, though unfortunately I haven’t been able to locate it. As I live near there, it would be nice to pay our vegan predecessor some respects.

The broadcast of this episode was on 6 Dec 2016. The podcast release was severely delayed. Rather than date this page with the broadcast date (as usual) I’m dating it to the January broadcast slot that was superseded by Resonance FM’s holiday schedules. Content (whether books, journal articles, or programmes) tends to be identified by its publication year, and so I thought it particularly important that that stays accurate.

Credits

The theme music is by Robb Masters.

The period music was Greensleeves performed by Paul Arden-Taylor and Carol Holt (PD); slow reels (dances) “Long Acre” and “Kerry Fling” performed by the “Peak Fiddler”; Papalin’s performance on recorders of Henry Purcell’s Sonata in D Major (CC-BY) to again evoke turn-of-the-century London, and Telemann’s performance of Händel’s recorder Sonata.

With the voices of Jeremy Hancock, Ian Russell, and Brian Roberts.

Nimi Hirani gave me enormous help and assistance in Ahmedabad, and in India in general.

The cover picture (by me) is some of the books in the readings: “Acetaria” (Evelyn) , “The English Hermit” (Crab), a pamphlet attacking Crab, and “Guide to Health, Long Life and Happiness” by George Cheyne.

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  • NEW SHOW: #Vegetarian #History EP13 covers the Victorian age, when veg'ns are organised, radical, & intersectional.... https://t.co/tNYxIW2mAb 9 days 6 hrs ago
  • Memorial Hall Deerfield MA, nr Vermont border, has vegan shoes from 1790s veggie free love cult of William Dorrell.... https://t.co/skQeZKQQBM 10 days 0 hrs ago
  • We reviewed how Frankenstein's creature fits into #Vegetarian #History in Ep 12 - but what about Veg sci-fi?... https://t.co/xaslXtvd0s 10 days 1 hrs ago
  • @vegand Mortality. It's now or never. 8 hrs 38 min ago
  • In #Ge2017, longstanding vegan MP @KerryMP threatened by swing to right. Hence "progressive alliance" to avoid vote... https://t.co/vmt59MEeQ7 1 days 8 hrs ago
  • RT @VegHistory: Chicago friends, here is info about my talk on vegetarian history at the Bucktown-Wicker Park library on June 24. Hope to s... 4 days 10 hrs ago
  • Spent #veganhour listening to tapes of @TheVeganSociety founder Donald Watson. He went veg as a New Year resol'n in 1924. So they do work. 4 days 23 hrs ago
  • RT @sentientist: Let's end industrial animal farming For humanity For the billions of voiceless suffering sentient beings https://t.co/ya... 6 days 2 hrs ago
  • @FrysFamily Heard the family are 7th Day Adventist & included it in my radio history of vegetarianism. Then heard otherwise. Are you/they? 6 days 19 hrs ago
  • @hertsengland Oops! I had to change & redirect the URL to fix a podcast problem, and there was a problem with the r... https://t.co/ZeHnciVyIa 7 days 3 hrs ago
  • I spent Friday evening interviewing someone born in 1951, raised vegan, and still vegan. (For #VegHist Ep 15). https://t.co/LnMJaAuufJ 7 days 7 hrs ago
  • @PinkPrimate I'm hoping that either some famous sixties artist released music under an open license; or a new artis... https://t.co/mVKmyzD3St 7 days 19 hrs ago
  • @PinkPrimate Soundtracks tend to be "all rights reserved" & at commercial rates that #VegHist can't afford. 7 days 19 hrs ago
  • Looking for creative commons music that says "Sixties hippy counterculture" to listeners. Wishing I knew my music better. Help needed :). 7 days 21 hrs ago
  • #FF @JNU_IN whose historians DN Jha & Burton Cleetus explain impact of Brit rule on Indian vegetarianism in https://t.co/YsJ1cjWpgz #podcast 8 days 1 hrs ago
  • NEW PODCAST: #VegHist Ep 12. Abolitionist veg'ns in Wild West + How Raj promoted vegetarianism + Victorian Ldn https://t.co/yJagSAjUEu 9 days 1 hrs ago
  • #FF @harish_bhimani, 1 of India's most recognisable voices, who contributed his acting to "Vegetarianism: The Story So Far" ep 13. Thanks! 9 days 5 hrs ago
  • NEW SHOW: #Vegetarian #History EP13 covers the Victorian age, when veg'ns are organised, radical, & intersectional.... https://t.co/tNYxIW2mAb 9 days 6 hrs ago
  • Memorial Hall Deerfield MA, nr Vermont border, has vegan shoes from 1790s veggie free love cult of William Dorrell.... https://t.co/skQeZKQQBM 10 days 0 hrs ago
  • We reviewed how Frankenstein's creature fits into #Vegetarian #History in Ep 12 - but what about Veg sci-fi?... https://t.co/xaslXtvd0s 10 days 1 hrs ago
  • Mike Volmar @fruitlands shows Ian the attic of a New England vegan commune where @LouisaMayAlcott lived.... https://t.co/rOfs8pGdbh 10 days 23 hrs ago
  • @vegand Mortality. It's now or never. 8 hrs 38 min ago
  • In #Ge2017, longstanding vegan MP @KerryMP threatened by swing to right. Hence "progressive alliance" to avoid vote... https://t.co/vmt59MEeQ7 1 days 8 hrs ago
  • RT @VegHistory: Chicago friends, here is info about my talk on vegetarian history at the Bucktown-Wicker Park library on June 24. Hope to s... 4 days 10 hrs ago
  • Spent #veganhour listening to tapes of @TheVeganSociety founder Donald Watson. He went veg as a New Year resol'n in 1924. So they do work. 4 days 23 hrs ago
  • RT @sentientist: Let's end industrial animal farming For humanity For the billions of voiceless suffering sentient beings https://t.co/ya... 6 days 2 hrs ago
  • @FrysFamily Heard the family are 7th Day Adventist & included it in my radio history of vegetarianism. Then heard otherwise. Are you/they? 6 days 19 hrs ago
  • @hertsengland Oops! I had to change & redirect the URL to fix a podcast problem, and there was a problem with the r... https://t.co/ZeHnciVyIa 7 days 3 hrs ago
  • I spent Friday evening interviewing someone born in 1951, raised vegan, and still vegan. (For #VegHist Ep 15). https://t.co/LnMJaAuufJ 7 days 7 hrs ago
  • @PinkPrimate I'm hoping that either some famous sixties artist released music under an open license; or a new artis... https://t.co/mVKmyzD3St 7 days 19 hrs ago
  • @PinkPrimate Soundtracks tend to be "all rights reserved" & at commercial rates that #VegHist can't afford. 7 days 19 hrs ago
  • Looking for creative commons music that says "Sixties hippy counterculture" to listeners. Wishing I knew my music better. Help needed :). 7 days 21 hrs ago
  • #FF @JNU_IN whose historians DN Jha & Burton Cleetus explain impact of Brit rule on Indian vegetarianism in https://t.co/YsJ1cjWpgz #podcast 8 days 1 hrs ago
  • NEW PODCAST: #VegHist Ep 12. Abolitionist veg'ns in Wild West + How Raj promoted vegetarianism + Victorian Ldn https://t.co/yJagSAjUEu 9 days 1 hrs ago
  • #FF @harish_bhimani, 1 of India's most recognisable voices, who contributed his acting to "Vegetarianism: The Story So Far" ep 13. Thanks! 9 days 5 hrs ago
  • NEW SHOW: #Vegetarian #History EP13 covers the Victorian age, when veg'ns are organised, radical, & intersectional.... https://t.co/tNYxIW2mAb 9 days 6 hrs ago
  • Memorial Hall Deerfield MA, nr Vermont border, has vegan shoes from 1790s veggie free love cult of William Dorrell.... https://t.co/skQeZKQQBM 10 days 0 hrs ago
  • We reviewed how Frankenstein's creature fits into #Vegetarian #History in Ep 12 - but what about Veg sci-fi?... https://t.co/xaslXtvd0s 10 days 1 hrs ago
  • Mike Volmar @fruitlands shows Ian the attic of a New England vegan commune where @LouisaMayAlcott lived.... https://t.co/rOfs8pGdbh 10 days 23 hrs ago
  • RT @schrodingerskit: ...unlike the energy used to process it https://t.co/Pjd1qpbunT 11 days 1 hrs ago
  • This #VegetarianWeek, hear the amazing backstory to today's veg movement whilst you commute/travel/do chores. https://t.co/FPxWo0UEDU 12 days 5 hrs ago
  • This #VegetarianWeek, hear the amazing backstory to today's veg movement whilst you commute/travel/do chores. https://t.co/FPxWo0UEDU 12 days 5 hrs ago
  • Hear a 19th century vegetarian hymn! Sung by @St_Marys_Choir Part of a #Radio #History of #Vegetarianism Ep 12.... https://t.co/Et7NZnTUpy 12 days 5 hrs ago
  • This #VegetarianWeek, hear the amazing backstory to today's veg movement whilst you commute/travel/do chores. https://t.co/FPxWo0UEDU 12 days 5 hrs ago
  • Hear a 19th century vegetarian hymn! Sung by @St_Marys_Choir Part of a #Radio #History of #Vegetarianism Ep 12.... https://t.co/Et7NZnTUpy 12 days 5 hrs ago
  • RT @andrewlwbarnes: @jimmympierson good article in paper. I was raised vegan over 30 years ago. So were my siblings. Now our kids too...i... 12 days 18 hrs ago
  • This #VegetarianWeek, hear the amazing backstory to today's veg movement whilst you commute/travel/do chores. https://t.co/FPxWo0UEDU 12 days 5 hrs ago
  • Hear a 19th century vegetarian hymn! Sung by @St_Marys_Choir Part of a #Radio #History of #Vegetarianism Ep 12.... https://t.co/Et7NZnTUpy 12 days 5 hrs ago
  • RT @andrewlwbarnes: @jimmympierson good article in paper. I was raised vegan over 30 years ago. So were my siblings. Now our kids too...i... 12 days 18 hrs ago
  • Ian talks #VegHist on today's @GoVeganRadio 5:45 PST (= 00:45 GMT tomorrow, confusingly for him). Listen live at https://t.co/LZDPEB5tU0 12 days 20 hrs ago
  • This #VegetarianWeek, hear the amazing backstory to today's veg movement whilst you commute/travel/do chores. https://t.co/FPxWo0UEDU 12 days 5 hrs ago
  • Hear a 19th century vegetarian hymn! Sung by @St_Marys_Choir Part of a #Radio #History of #Vegetarianism Ep 12.... https://t.co/Et7NZnTUpy 12 days 5 hrs ago
  • RT @andrewlwbarnes: @jimmympierson good article in paper. I was raised vegan over 30 years ago. So were my siblings. Now our kids too...i... 12 days 18 hrs ago
  • Ian talks #VegHist on today's @GoVeganRadio 5:45 PST (= 00:45 GMT tomorrow, confusingly for him). Listen live at https://t.co/LZDPEB5tU0 12 days 20 hrs ago
  • The steps up to this car park in Salford, NW England, actually belong to a Victorian vegetarian church!... https://t.co/FO8RQ7Baw1 13 days 5 hrs ago
  • This #VegetarianWeek, hear the amazing backstory to today's veg movement whilst you commute/travel/do chores. https://t.co/FPxWo0UEDU 12 days 5 hrs ago
  • Hear a 19th century vegetarian hymn! Sung by @St_Marys_Choir Part of a #Radio #History of #Vegetarianism Ep 12.... https://t.co/Et7NZnTUpy 12 days 5 hrs ago
  • RT @andrewlwbarnes: @jimmympierson good article in paper. I was raised vegan over 30 years ago. So were my siblings. Now our kids too...i... 12 days 18 hrs ago
  • Ian talks #VegHist on today's @GoVeganRadio 5:45 PST (= 00:45 GMT tomorrow, confusingly for him). Listen live at https://t.co/LZDPEB5tU0 12 days 20 hrs ago
  • The steps up to this car park in Salford, NW England, actually belong to a Victorian vegetarian church!... https://t.co/FO8RQ7Baw1 13 days 5 hrs ago
  • @BigIssue How could I buy a copy of last week's issue (May 8)? 13 days 6 hrs ago
  • This #VegetarianWeek, hear the amazing backstory to today's veg movement whilst you commute/travel/do chores. https://t.co/FPxWo0UEDU 12 days 5 hrs ago
  • Hear a 19th century vegetarian hymn! Sung by @St_Marys_Choir Part of a #Radio #History of #Vegetarianism Ep 12.... https://t.co/Et7NZnTUpy 12 days 5 hrs ago
  • RT @andrewlwbarnes: @jimmympierson good article in paper. I was raised vegan over 30 years ago. So were my siblings. Now our kids too...i... 12 days 18 hrs ago
  • Ian talks #VegHist on today's @GoVeganRadio 5:45 PST (= 00:45 GMT tomorrow, confusingly for him). Listen live at https://t.co/LZDPEB5tU0 12 days 20 hrs ago
  • The steps up to this car park in Salford, NW England, actually belong to a Victorian vegetarian church!... https://t.co/FO8RQ7Baw1 13 days 5 hrs ago
  • @BigIssue How could I buy a copy of last week's issue (May 8)? 13 days 6 hrs ago
  • This is the only UK club with all-vegan catering. So congratulations! Stagg (who turned @ChicagoMaroons veg in 1900... https://t.co/Z7wW9hQ0nP 13 days 10 hrs ago
  • This #VegetarianWeek, hear the amazing backstory to today's veg movement whilst you commute/travel/do chores. https://t.co/FPxWo0UEDU 12 days 5 hrs ago
  • Hear a 19th century vegetarian hymn! Sung by @St_Marys_Choir Part of a #Radio #History of #Vegetarianism Ep 12.... https://t.co/Et7NZnTUpy 12 days 5 hrs ago
  • RT @andrewlwbarnes: @jimmympierson good article in paper. I was raised vegan over 30 years ago. So were my siblings. Now our kids too...i... 12 days 18 hrs ago
  • Ian talks #VegHist on today's @GoVeganRadio 5:45 PST (= 00:45 GMT tomorrow, confusingly for him). Listen live at https://t.co/LZDPEB5tU0 12 days 20 hrs ago
  • The steps up to this car park in Salford, NW England, actually belong to a Victorian vegetarian church!... https://t.co/FO8RQ7Baw1 13 days 5 hrs ago
  • @BigIssue How could I buy a copy of last week's issue (May 8)? 13 days 6 hrs ago
  • This is the only UK club with all-vegan catering. So congratulations! Stagg (who turned @ChicagoMaroons veg in 1900... https://t.co/Z7wW9hQ0nP 13 days 10 hrs ago
  • Monument to Lib veg MP Brotherton; began municipal cemeteries & chaired @vegsoc's 1st meeting. (Pic CCbySA Plucas58... https://t.co/Nolp5hdifS 14 days 1 hrs ago
  • This #VegetarianWeek, hear the amazing backstory to today's veg movement whilst you commute/travel/do chores. https://t.co/FPxWo0UEDU 12 days 5 hrs ago
  • Hear a 19th century vegetarian hymn! Sung by @St_Marys_Choir Part of a #Radio #History of #Vegetarianism Ep 12.... https://t.co/Et7NZnTUpy 12 days 5 hrs ago
  • RT @andrewlwbarnes: @jimmympierson good article in paper. I was raised vegan over 30 years ago. So were my siblings. Now our kids too...i... 12 days 18 hrs ago
  • Ian talks #VegHist on today's @GoVeganRadio 5:45 PST (= 00:45 GMT tomorrow, confusingly for him). Listen live at https://t.co/LZDPEB5tU0 12 days 20 hrs ago
  • The steps up to this car park in Salford, NW England, actually belong to a Victorian vegetarian church!... https://t.co/FO8RQ7Baw1 13 days 5 hrs ago
  • @BigIssue How could I buy a copy of last week's issue (May 8)? 13 days 6 hrs ago
  • This is the only UK club with all-vegan catering. So congratulations! Stagg (who turned @ChicagoMaroons veg in 1900... https://t.co/Z7wW9hQ0nP 13 days 10 hrs ago
  • Monument to Lib veg MP Brotherton; began municipal cemeteries & chaired @vegsoc's 1st meeting. (Pic CCbySA Plucas58... https://t.co/Nolp5hdifS 14 days 1 hrs ago
  • @robinince @BigIssue @themonkeycage If I can be any practical assistance with that, would be delighted to help. I k... https://t.co/WPzs0XyJOe 16 days 1 hrs ago
  • This #VegetarianWeek, hear the amazing backstory to today's veg movement whilst you commute/travel/do chores. https://t.co/FPxWo0UEDU 12 days 5 hrs ago
  • Hear a 19th century vegetarian hymn! Sung by @St_Marys_Choir Part of a #Radio #History of #Vegetarianism Ep 12.... https://t.co/Et7NZnTUpy 12 days 5 hrs ago
  • RT @andrewlwbarnes: @jimmympierson good article in paper. I was raised vegan over 30 years ago. So were my siblings. Now our kids too...i... 12 days 18 hrs ago
  • Ian talks #VegHist on today's @GoVeganRadio 5:45 PST (= 00:45 GMT tomorrow, confusingly for him). Listen live at https://t.co/LZDPEB5tU0 12 days 20 hrs ago
  • The steps up to this car park in Salford, NW England, actually belong to a Victorian vegetarian church!... https://t.co/FO8RQ7Baw1 13 days 5 hrs ago
  • @BigIssue How could I buy a copy of last week's issue (May 8)? 13 days 6 hrs ago
  • This is the only UK club with all-vegan catering. So congratulations! Stagg (who turned @ChicagoMaroons veg in 1900... https://t.co/Z7wW9hQ0nP 13 days 10 hrs ago
  • Monument to Lib veg MP Brotherton; began municipal cemeteries & chaired @vegsoc's 1st meeting. (Pic CCbySA Plucas58... https://t.co/Nolp5hdifS 14 days 1 hrs ago
  • @robinince @BigIssue @themonkeycage If I can be any practical assistance with that, would be delighted to help. I k... https://t.co/WPzs0XyJOe 16 days 1 hrs ago
  • Conversations about Victorian #vegetarian & progressive MP Joseph Brotherton in the building he set up as Salford's... https://t.co/kr17RjLMwt 16 days 1 hrs ago

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